i read that you were in wyoming over the weekend where you have a home and you talked about the obamas team was second rate. what did you mean? >> i'm very, very concerned about what i see happening, charlie, in the national security arena. i think the administration's policies are terribly flawed. i think the damage they're doing to the department is enormous with the sequester. i think the president's performance, by my standards, in the international arena, the middle east and so forth, is worse than many of my friends and colleagues see his domestic policies. i see him heading for the exits in the middle east, getting out of iraq, no follow on agreement, geing out of afghanistan as quickly as he can. jawboning the iranians on the nuclear program. >> rose: is it a problem with the president and his policies or is it with chuck hagel, john brennan, john kerry? >> it's all the president. the president picks the people that he puts around him, too. with respect to chuck hagel and brennan, defense and c.i.a. just in the last week, their performance in front of the committees that have t